RE: syntax feedback

Subject: RE: syntax feedback
From: "Didier PH Martin" <martind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:18:33 -0500
Hi Sebastian

Your comments are right. However the state of the art for XSL is not better
:-) and I should say even worse.
So, I guess that only procedural languages with DOM seems to give good
services at least.

Didier PH Martin
mailto:martind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
http://www.netfolder.com

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-xsl-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Sebastian Rahtz
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 10:19 AM
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Subject: RE: syntax feedback


Didier PH Martin writes:
 >
 > This is true that Jade implementation do not support the full spec. But
to
 > say that it is has a limited range of incomplete backends is maybe a bit
 > misleading here.
is it? Jade has

 - RTF, which does not do eg footnotes or floats
 - MIF, which does not do math
 - TeX, which does not get tables right
 - SGML, irrelevant for this point
just to pick some points at random

I know, trust me, the weaknesses and incompleteness of the TeX
backend; I have nightmares about it.

 > If we compare oranges with oranges no XSL implementations, up to now,
allows
 > us to convert from XML to something other than XML or HTML. So, it seems
nonsense, you can use XSL to write anything. make it write literal TeX
if you want with eg XT.

 > As far as I know, people are doing _real_ stuff with jade and this
includes
 > printing.

up to a point, yes. what might one classify as `docbook documents',
like software documentation or manuals. not very challenging stuff,
really, compared to what the typical LaTeX user does every day. When
you can easily do the same with DSSSL as LaTeX does with

 \documentclass[twocolumn]{article}
 \begin{document}
 foo\footnote{blah}
 \begin{table}
  xxx
 \end{table}
 \end{document}

then we'll be on the first rung of the ladder. you can *nearly* get
the above with Jade+DSSSL extensions+JadeTeX, but not quite.

Sebastian


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