Re: [xsl] Good quality XSLT course in the UK?

["G. Ken Holman" <gkholman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

At 2010-08-27 12:11 +0530, pankaj.c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >> Can anyone recommend a good XPath/XSLT course somewhere in the UK that
> >> would make a non-programmer confident enough to be able to read /
> >> alter existing XSLT stylesheets, and build their own (simple) ones?
>
> Little bit [OT], but I hope moderator will not mind, me asking in this
> thread.  Do we have similar kind of options in India, I mean some good
> institutes, training programs etc?
>
> I still have to find such professional institutes, which organize similar
> courses at the corporate level or individual level.

In the last 8 months I've delivered my hands-on five-day 
XSLT/XPath/XQuery twice in Noida, a suburb of New Delhi.  Both were 
corporate deliveries at full rate (Dave already mentioned my classes 
are more expensive than other classes; we fix our rates every April 
and they don't change over the year) with very full classes.  Very 
successful deliveries.  Based on the success of the first delivery 
the same customer flew me back to do the second delivery to a larger class.

But that customer had a commitment to train their staff quickly for a 
couple of projects and incurred the necessary expenses.  They saw 
immediate savings in the progress of their projects.  When I've tried 
to convince other companies in India they balk at the prices.  Any 
talk with individuals regarding the fees for a publicly-delivered 
class in India with open subscription quickly ends because of the 
rates.  Not so in other countries as I've had the privilege to teach 
my classes privately and publicly around the world.  The next 
confirmed class is March in Prague after XML Prague 2011 ... there 
will likely be others.

There is a wide range of training available from very capable members 
of this mail list.  Though I may be expensive, there are others on 
this list who don't charge as much.  My class is the one cited by 
Wendell as being comprehensive by teaching each and every element and 
attribute and keyword in all of XSLT, XPath and XQuery (what should 
be left out?).  Other classes delivered by members of this mail list 
are also very professional.  I cannot comment, though, on the 
commodity training courses delivered by volume training companies ... 
I don't know if their instructors are day-to-day practitioners or 
simply one lesson ahead of the students.  Find the industry 
participants who have made a reputation for themselves with the 
technology who teach this stuff and you'll probably get more out of the class.

A number of members of the XML Guild http://www.XMLGuild.org offer 
training classes.  We'll be in the exhibit hall at the XML 2010 
Conference in Philadelphia in October for those who are attending that event.

So, yes there is training available to companies in India.  Is it 
competitively priced?  Yes for elsewhere in the world but likely no 
for the marketplace in India.  What is your company's commitment to 
get the most in-depth training possible?  Covering everything in a 
single class ensures you have the reference material and exercises 
from a single class rather than taking a suite of beginning, 
intermediate and advanced classes.

I think it is exciting to see the level of interest in such training 
in India ... but I don't think the industry's experts will be 
teaching much there except for private gigs by companies willing to 
pay for the expertise.

I hope this helps.

. . . . . . . . . . . . Ken

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