Subject: Re: [jats-list] Preferred pronouns for authors From: "Debbie Lapeyre dalapeyre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:05:01 -0000 |
> On Dec 13, 2020, at 1:00 AM, Pieter Lamers pieter.lamers@xxxxxxxxxxxx <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > As a NoENL publisher active in humanities I would like to reiterate on the fact that we would need <sex> (or @sex or @gender) just as much or even more than <persPronoun>: in languages like German and French, a heading like Author's address must be differentiated for authors who identify with or simply are of female gender (and I think the same would go for English if we were to record movies instead of articles, with the Actor/Actress distinction). > Therefore, if anybody feels the need to amend the data model towards the inclusion of <persPronoun>, please also consider the simple linguistic reality in other languages than English; A point I've also made during my appearances in JATS Con 2016 and 2019. Now we work around this problem with @content-type = 'female'. > > Pieter > (NoENL is of course Not Only English Language, but everybody in this audience got that, right?) > On 11/12/2020 17:02, Debbie Lapeyre dalapeyre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: The request for a @gender attribute was made on the JATS form on the NISO site. Here is the JATS Standing Committee's reply: JATS Standing Committee Minutes Request Denied: Add contributor @gender attribute Two use cases were described as rationales for this request: - To describe the gender of a contributor in order to construct grammatically correct descriptions of the contributor roles, for use in sentences (e.g., female: codirectrice and male: codirecteur in French). - To use this information to produce scientometric indicators based on authorbs gender. Recommendation - Regarding the mechanics of making a grammatical sentence for production, we appreciate the requirement, but feel that JATS already contains a mechanism to do this: the <role> element. (See XML-tagged sample below.) - Regarding the scientometric request: Collection of such data is out of scope for JATS. XML Example <contrib> <name> <surname>Bastin</surname> <given-names>Georges L.</given-names> </name> <role>codirecteur</role> </contrib> <contrib> <name> <surname>St-Pierre</surname> <given-names>JosC)e</given-name> </name> <role>codirectrice</role> </contrib> ----------------------------------------------------------- And, it seems to me (Debbie Lapeyre) that gender (biological) is a very complicated issue. Even for grammar purposes, this is complex. --Debbie Lapeyre ================================================================ Deborah A Lapeyre mailto:dalapeyre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Mulberry Technologies, Inc. http://www.mulberrytech.com 17 West Jefferson Street Phone: 301-315-9631 (USA) Suite 207 Fax: 301-315-8385 Rockville, MD 20850 ---------------------------------------------------------------- Mulberry Technologies: Consultancy for XML, XSLT, and Schematron ================================================================
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