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Subject: Re: [jats-list] Preferred pronouns for authors From: "Debbie Lapeyre dalapeyre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:05:01 -0000 |
> On Dec 13, 2020, at 1:00 AM, Pieter Lamers pieter.lamers@xxxxxxxxxxxx
<jats-list-service@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> As a NoENL publisher active in humanities I would like to reiterate on the
fact that we would need <sex> (or @sex or @gender) just as much or even more
than <persPronoun>: in languages like German and French, a heading like
Author's address must be differentiated for authors who identify with or
simply are of female gender (and I think the same would go for English if we
were to record movies instead of articles, with the Actor/Actress
distinction).
> Therefore, if anybody feels the need to amend the data model towards the
inclusion of <persPronoun>, please also consider the simple linguistic reality
in other languages than English; A point I've also made during my appearances
in JATS Con 2016 and 2019. Now we work around this problem with @content-type
= 'female'.
>
> Pieter
> (NoENL is of course Not Only English Language, but everybody in this
audience got that, right?)
> On 11/12/2020 17:02, Debbie Lapeyre dalapeyre@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
The request for a @gender attribute was made on the JATS form
on the NISO site. Here is the JATS Standing Committee's reply:
JATS Standing Committee Minutes
Request Denied: Add contributor @gender attribute
Two use cases were described as rationales for this request:
- To describe the gender of a contributor in order to construct
grammatically correct descriptions of the contributor roles,
for use in sentences (e.g., female: codirectrice and
male: codirecteur in French).
- To use this information to produce scientometric indicators
based on authorbs gender.
Recommendation
- Regarding the mechanics of making a grammatical sentence for
production, we appreciate the requirement, but feel that JATS
already contains a mechanism to do this: the <role>
element. (See XML-tagged sample below.)
- Regarding the scientometric request: Collection of such data is
out of scope for JATS.
XML Example
<contrib>
<name>
<surname>Bastin</surname>
<given-names>Georges L.</given-names>
</name>
<role>codirecteur</role>
</contrib>
<contrib>
<name>
<surname>St-Pierre</surname>
<given-names>JosC)e</given-name>
</name>
<role>codirectrice</role>
</contrib>
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And, it seems to me (Debbie Lapeyre) that gender (biological) is
a very complicated issue. Even for grammar purposes, this is complex.
--Debbie Lapeyre
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